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For my setups and sound clips CLICK HERE A Momentary Lapse of Reason 1987 cover art and the cover art for the 2019 remix 1986-87 - THE MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON LEAD TONES - This first Gilmour-led Pink Floyd album, released in 1987, spawned several radio hits like Learning to Fly, On the Turning Away, and Sorrow. It featured very little playing from Floyd members Nick Mason and Rick Wright, but it was still very successful in relaunching Pink Floyd and featured some fantastic guitar work from Gilmour. AMLOR is one of the few Floyd albums that sounds very dated to the period. The 1980s sound is all over it, especially the gated drum sounds. In December 2019 it was remixed and released as part of the Later Years box set, with a stand alone release following in 2021. David Gilmour and Andy Jackson updated and remixed the whole album, removing some of the gated 1980s drum sounds and replacing them with newly recorded drum tracks from Nick Mason. Rick Wright keyboards, taken from the 1987-88 tour recordings, were also mixed into some of the songs to "restore the creative balance between the three Pink Floyd members". Other than the On the Turning Away solo, most of David's guitar tones sound better in the remix. There is very little information about the original AMLOR recording sessions, but some facts are known. Most of the demos and studio recordings were done in the cramped recording rooms of the Astoria, David's floating recording studio anchored on the River Thames. Bob Ezrin, who produced Pink Floyd's The Wall and David's About Face album, was the producer. Recording and mixing stretched from November 1986 - March 1987.
David's high gain lead guitar tone sounded like a continuation of the tone he used on the Berlin song Pink & Velvet. That was recorded in 1986 for Berlin's Count Three & Pray album sessions, which Bob Ezrin also produced. For the AMLOR sessions David used two small Fender Super Champ combos in stereo and a Gallien Krueger 250ML combo amplifier. Among the effects David used were a Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal pedal, an Electro-Harmonix Big Muff, a Boss GE-7 graphic equalizer, a Boss CE-2 chorus pedal, a stereo Ernie Ball volume pedal, two Boss DD-2 Digital Delay pedals, and an MXR Digital Delay System II rack unit. For electric guitars, David used his 57V red Strat and a Steinberger GL3T, each equipped with EMG-SA pickups and the SPC EQ. Below are extractions of David's lead guitars, for tone and learning reference. Although we do not know which guitars were used for each song, David has said the Steinberger was used prominently on the album, particularly for the Sorrow intro and the solos. It is also confirmed that David used the red Strat on the songs Signs of Life and Learning to Fly. David said in the October 1988 issue of Guitar magazine that the guitar solos for On the Turning Away and Sorrow were the first takes for each song. He stayed on board the Astoria for one weekend in late 1986 and wrote the Sorrow lyrics, the music, and played and recorded all the instruments himself. The Sorrow solo was recorded the day the song was written. In February 1987 the recording sessions moved to Los Angeles and the Sorrow intro was replayed through the PA system of the LA Memorial Sports Arena and rerecorded with multiple mics to get the huge arena sound.
Looking at the rigs we know David used just prior to and just after AMLOR, we can get an idea about some of the setups used for the album. He was still using some of his pre 1986 gear - a Big Muff, a Boss HM-2, Boss GE-7 equalizers, a Boss compressor, along with chorus and delay. The primary setup for most of the tracks seems to be a split signal with one feed going to a Boss HM-2 running into a Fender Super Champ amp set for a clean tone and the other feed going into the gain channel of a Gallien Krueger 250ML. Another setup seems to be the Boss HM-2 going into the 250ML(used in the signal chain as an overdrive effect) then into a Super Champ. Note the GK amp was used as an overdrive and EQ in the signal chain, not powering a speaker cabinet. That was a similar setup as David's 1984-86 rigs, but in that rig he used a Mesa Boogie in place of the GK amp. 1982 Fender Super Champ 18w amp 1982-85 Fender Super Champ Deluxe. David used this version in a March 1987 performance with Kate Bush FENDER SUPER CHAMP - The Super Champ was a small combo amp from Fender's Paul Rivera design era, sold from 1982-1986. Rivera managed the revamped 1982 Fender design team responsible for all the Series II amps, including the Super Champ. It was based on one of the first amps Rivera ever built as a young boy, a hot-rodded Princeton Reverb with a master volume, but without the reverb. That concept was developed into the '82 Super Champ by Ed Jahns and Rivera, and was one of the last point-to-point wired Fender amps built. It was powered by two 6V6GT tubes running 18w into a 1x10" speaker. Designed to compete with Mesa/Boogie 2-channel amps that were very popular at the time, the Super Champ also featured a 2-channel design with a foot-switchable Lead channel gain stage for an overdrive sound, master volume, reverb, and a mid boost pot. It was very versatile and covered a wide range of tones. The blackface style clean channel sounded very similar to a Fender Princeton. The 50w 10" Eminence speaker it shipped with had a lot of mid range and not much bottom end. Many consider these to be the best sounding of all the Rivera era Fender amps. These have become collectors items now, but the 6C10 compactron preamp tube it uses is no longer produced and is becoming hard to find, and very expensive. Although the Super Champ had lots of bells and whistles, David used it strictly for its Princeton-like blackface Fender clean tone. The Treble pull pot that added a mid boost may have also been something that appealed to Gilmour. David ran his signal chain into two Super Champs, one for the left channel and one for the right, similar to how he used his Fender Concert and win Reverb II amps from 1984-86. I doubt that David used the spring reverb in the Super Champ at all. There is a lot of reverb in the On the Turning Away solo, but it sounds more like room reverb or studio plate reverb from the EMT plate reverbs in David's Astoria recording studio.
David Gilmour's Gallien Krueger 250ML amp with white tic marks showing some of his settings. It was auctioned for charity in 2019. GALLIEN KRUEGER 250ML - The 250ML was a small, lunchbox-sized solid state stereo amp with built in effects, first marketed in 1983. David Gilmour first used one in his 1986 stage rig as well as in recording studios in 1987 and 1988. It was a tiny amp that looked like an '80s boombox with two built in 4” speakers. Many people used it for a practice amp, but it was actually a 100w gigging amp head that could power two 4x12 speaker cabinets in stereo. It sounded a little similar to a Rockman headphone amp of the time, but the 250ML had a full power amp inside and full EQ controls, as well as a built in chorus and delay. It was used by numerous hair metal bands at the time like Iron Maiden, but guitarists like Alex Lifeson of Rush and Richie Sambora of Bon Jovi also used them. The clean channel with chorus is very much a 1980s sound. Many people found the sound too sterile and processed sounding for blues-based style rock and roll. It was definitely a change from David's familiar Big Muff and Boss pedal tones from the previous years. 250ML had switchable clean (A) and distortion (B) channels. The clean channel included a button-switchable gain boost and compression, for a light overdrive sound. The distortion channel also included a gain boost button and the level of distortion gain increased with the volume. There was also a switchable chorus and echo effect that worked with both channels. There were two ways to run the 250ML in a pedal board signal chain like David used it. One way was to send a line from the pedal board to the 250ML front Input, then return to the pedal board using the effects loop Send jack on the back. This bypassed the chorus and echo effects however. Another way was to use the XLR Direct output on the back, which retained the built in effects. Unfortunately there was no way to switch off the built in speakers when using the Direct output on the original version of the 250ML that David owned. GK added a switch to turn the speakers off in the Series II version. A dummy plug can also be inserted into the headphone jack to bypass the built in speakers when using the effect loop Send. STEINBERGER GL3T - Steinberger headless guitars were very popular in the 1980s, used by musicians like Mark Knoppfler of Dire Strats, Lou Reed, Eddie Van Halen, and briefly by David Gilmour. Ned Steinberger designed this series of bass and electric guitars in the late 1970s that featured a revolutionary minimalist design. He eliminated the large body, headstock, and moved all the tuning hardware to the tail of the guitar body. The small body and neck were completely synthetic, made of a practically indestructible carbon fiber/graphite mix. Steinberger could not keep up with the high production demand and sold the company to Gibson in 1987, but they quickly went out of favor with guitarists and production stopped in 1990. They are now collectors items and in the 2000s Steinberger guitars returned to production with the Synapse and Spirit lines. Although those guitars had similar headless look and body styles, they retained little of the materials and specs of the original Steinbergers. The GL3T model was introduced by Steinberger in 1986 and David first tried one in October '86. He then had Steinberger custom make him one in 1987. The 3GLT was a three pickup version of Steinberger's GL model. David's was fitted with EMG-SA pickups like David's 57V Red Strat, which was also used to record the album. The 9v battery that powered the EMGs was stored in a compartment on the back of the guitar. It was later modifed to add a recessed toggle switch that activated the EMG SPC tone control. Steinbergers were fitted with a TransTrem tremolo system that not only stayed in tune but allowed all six strings to stay in tune when changing pitch with the tremolo. This made it possible to play chords and have them stay in perfect tune when bending the the tremolo bar up or down. David used this to good effect with the intro to the song Sorrow, as well as the tremolo work on many of the guitar solos on the album. I remember first hearing Sorrow on the radio and being blown away by the intro sound. Gilmour's Steinberger GL3T with TransTrem, EMG-SA pickups, and SPC tone circuit. It was sold at auction in 2019. DAVID'S STUDIO SETUP - Determining the exact setups David actually used to create the album tones can be a bit tricky, since David, his Backline tech Phil Taylor, engineer Andy Jackson, author/researcher Richard Mahon, and author David Mead all seem to give contradictory info. Both David and producer Bob Ezrin have stated that David used a Gallien Krueger 250ML amp and Fender amps for most of the tracks recorded on the Astoria, but there are a lot of confusing details that cloud the exact setup, pedals used, and signal chain.
No one else mentioned a Princeton in the studio, just the Super Champ, so I think Ezrin is mistaken there or just thought it was a Princeton, as the Super Champ had a similar Blackface Princeton sound. The one song we have specific (but contradictory) studio gear info about is Sorrow, so I use that as the basis of the album setups, and my ears. Author Richard Mahon detailed the rig on his Spare Bricks website, with info from engineer Andy Jackson. He refers to the Sorrow intro here, but Jackson also said this was the main setup for the whole album:
Jackson's signal chain description is probably unintentionally confusing and out of order, as the delays would not be first in line, but that may have been how the pedals were laid out when he saw them on the studio floor. Author David Mead (Guitar Techniques magazine) claims David used a Steinberger through a Big Muff for Sorrow, along with a Boss GE-7 equalizer, and an Ernie Ball volume pedal. No mention of the Gallien Krueger or HM-2. He also says it was originally played through a Fender Concert 1x12, not a Super Champ, then that recording was replayed through the Los Angeles Sports Arena PA system and re-recorded using a holophonic recording system Phil Taylor, David's backline tech, claims the amps were Fender Super Champs, not a Fender Concert, but like David Mead he thinks the Big Muff was used for both the Sorrow solo and intro. David often used a two-amp stereo setup, which is why Phil referred to the amps in plural:
David himself actually stated the setup in 1988, just a year after recording it, so I assume it was still fresh in his memory. He is only talking about the Sorrow intro here:
Note that David said "internal distortion" of the Gallien-Krueger, meaning the B distortion channel with the gain switched engaged. It could have been recorded using the built in speakers or recorded direct. In the October 1988 issue of Guitar magazine David described the setup for the Sorrow guitar solos. He does not mention the Boss HM-2, but he clearly used it because the disortion channel of the 250ML alone does not sound like the album solo tone.
So Richard Mahon, David Mead, and Phil Taylor all say the Sorrow intro was a Big Muff and multi amp combo, but David says it was an HM-2 and multi amp combo. Phil says David uses an MXR delay, but David says it was a Boss DD-2. All we can get from that is that probably all of that gear was used in the sessions at some point, and there were different setups used for different songs that may have gotten confused or misremembered. David, Phil , and Andy all say the Fender amps used were Super Champs, not a Princeton or Concert, so I think at least that part is correct. David was also doing a lot of session work in 1987 and 1988 for other musicians (Dalbello, Bryan Ferry, Sam Brown, Peter Cetera, Liona Boyd, John "Rabbit" Bundrick), in addition to touring with Pink Floyd. Phil Taylor again talked about David's studio setup in a 1988 issue of Guitar World, referring to his recent session work. No mention of the Boss HM-2 this time, and Phil implies the 250ML was used as an overdrive directly into the Super Champ.
Gallien Krueger 250ML Series II and Boss HM-2 I happen to think a two-amp setup of the Boss HM-2 into the Super Champ blended with Gallien Krueger 250ML distortion channel was used for most of the lead solos on AMLOR, including the On the Turning Away solo, as that is what it sounds like to my ears. This is simply another one of David's blended, multi-amp setups. Very small amps in this case. If you listen to some of the solos on David's 1984 About Face album, such as Let's Get Metaphysical, and compare it to the OTTA solo, you will hear a similar tone. If you listen to the Berlin song Pink & Velvet recorded in 1986 and compare it to the Sorrow solos, you will hear a silimar tone. So how did David use the 250ML and HM-2 together? Those various quotes above say David used the built in distortion or the overdrive of the 250ML along with the Boss HM-2, going to two separate Fender amps, but nothing clearly indicating whether the 250ML and HM-2 were split to separate signal chains to each amp, or both in the same signal chain, with the split to amps after. Here are three possible setups:
I tested all three ways using a clean tone from a 65 Twin Reverb and a 59 Bassman amp in place of the Super Champ. I think most of the songs used setup #1, a two-channel setup with the HM-2 going to the Super Champ in one channel and the 250ML in the other, so they do not interact. I also think there are some parts with only the HM-2 and Super Champ, other parts with the 250ML into a Super Champ, and others with only the 250ML. Photos of David's 250ML have tic marks indicating his EQ settings and that he used the B channel with the gain switch engaged. I tried various settings running the HM-2 into the 250ML using the B channel with gain switch engaged. I then tested using the HM-2 with the 250ML clean channel, with and without the gain boost engaged. It is very difficult to get anything that sounds like the album lead guitar tones with the HM-2 into the 250ML. Depending on the EQ settings, either having the gain boost engaged or off can be made to sound like the lead tones using either the clean or distortion channels. Using the 250ML alone (no HM-2) with gain boost off, seems to be the clean tone heard on most of the record, including Signs of Life. I tested both using the built in 250ML chorus and using a Boss CE-2 chorus. I think David used the built in chorus when playing clean tones, and the CE-2 with when he used the HM-2 and 250ML together or separate. BEST SUBSTITUTE FOR THE G-K 250ML/HM-2 COMBO? - The Boss MZ-2 Digital Metalizer is very close to this sound, and David actually started using one himself in 1988 during the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour. The MZ-2 blends very well with overdrives and distortions like the TC-BLD, Boss Blues Driver, BK Butler Tube Driver, and Big Muff. It is a Gilmour-in-a-box pedal and is perfect for the lead tone heard in On the Turning Away when played through a mid scooped Fender amp like the Twin Reverb. Boss released it in late 1987 as a replacement for the HM-2, although it did not really sound anything like the HM-2. It is voiced similarly to the Gallien-Kreuger with Gilmour's EQ settings, and even includes a built in chorus like the G-K, so this may have been an attempt by Boss at appealing to the G-K users.
David performing with Kate Bush in March 1987
David's Fender Super Champ Deluxe combo can be seen in the background with a rack effect on top, possibly his MXR Digital Delay
David playing his Steinberger GM 3T through a pair of Seymour Duncan Convertible 100 amps
Gilmour's Steinberger GM 3T and Seymour Duncan Convertible 100 amp
GETTING THE TONES - I have tried various signal chain setups using various amp settings, HM-2 settings, and GE-7 equalizer settings, but I have never successfully replicated all of the album lead tones. Photos of David's 250ML taken when it was auctioned in 2019 have knob markings indicating his exact settings, but there are no photos showing his HM-2 or amp settings. David's 250ML show tick marks that indicate David's settings and that he used the gain from channel B My favorite tone on the album is the solo from On the Turning Away and I have struggled finding that exact tone for years. It's one of the few Gilmour solos that is awash in heavy reverb, which is a big part of the tone. I do not think David used the built in reverb of the Super Champ, and it sounds too big to be room reverb from the small recording rooms on the Astoria. It was likely the EMT plate reverb housed on the Astoria, added to the mix in post. To simulate it, I use a tiny amount of Fender spring reverb and plate reverb from a Free The Tone Ambi Space pedal. My Boss HM-2, GE-7, and 250ML settings for the On the Turning Away solo Below is the closest I have gotten to OTTA the studio recording using a Strat with EMG-SA bridge pickup and SPC boost, with the signal split into a two-amp setup. One signal goes to the HM-2 into a Fender 59 Bassman and the other signal goes to the 250ML using the internal disortion. I mic'd the speakers of the 250ML and the Bassman. The mix is about 60% Bassman and 40% 250ML. The Boss HM-2/Bassman is the core sound, but the 250ML amp is a critical part of the mix. It's a horrible, nasal sound, but when blended with the Fender, it completes the tone.
Below is a take using just using the Gallien Krueger amp clean channel.
________________________________________________ Below is one of my early attempts at the studio version of this solo tone using only the HM-2 for distortion, but I think it is a poor replication of that tone.
Below is a test using the 250ML distortion only, no Boss HM-2. The sound is similar, but still not very accurate, and a bit too nasal sounding to my ears.
Below is a test using the Boss HM-2 into the 250ML clean channel. The sound is closer, but still missing something.
Boss pedal setings and Gallien Kreuger 250ML settings shown in green 65 Twin Reverb settings Below is my high gain signal chain for the OTTA and Sorrow solos, using the Gallien-Kreuger 250ML, a Strat with EMG-SA pickups, and a Fender Twin Reverb amplifier. I send a line after the Boss HM-2 to the 250ML input, then use the XLR Direct output to send the signal back the the pedal board with an XLR-to-1/4" cable. Boss CS-2 compressor > Distortion (Boss HM-2 or Big Muff) > Boss GE-7 > Gallien Krueger 250ML clean channel, gain boost engaged > Boss CE-2 chorus > TC Nova delay > Fender Twin Reverb Below is the signal chain for the clean tones, like the Signs of Life solo. Boss CS-2 compressor > Gallien Krueger 250ML clean channel, gain boost on, built in chorus on > TC Nova delay > Fender Twin Reverb Other detailed setups and sound clips for the On the Turning Away solo can be found on this page. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ My Boss HM-2 and 250ML settings for the Sorrow intro Below is the closest I have gotten to Sorrow solo tone from the studio recording using a Strat with EMG-SA bridge pickup and SPC boost, with the signal split into a two-amp setup. One signal going to the HM-2 into a Fender 59 Bassman and Twin Reverb and the other signal going to the 250ML using the internal disortion. I mic'd the speakers of the 250ML, Bassman, and Twin. The mix is about 50% Bassman/Twin and 50% 250ML.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ I have never been able to replicate the intro tone for the Sorrow studio recording sucessfully. I think this may be due to the way the guitar tone was altered when it was replayed through the LA Sports Arena PA system and rerecorded for the final album mix. There is a unique tone and bloom as the notes decay that is very difficult to capture. Below is the closest I have gotten, by running an HM-2 into a Ram's Head Big Muff, with extreme EQ'ing from a Boss GE-7. This clip sounds less like the original album mix and more like the 2019 remix, which has a much wider stereo field, more echo delays, and an undertone of flange-like modulation.
Below are a few less successful attempts using different setups.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ ALTERNATE MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON LEAD TONE SETUP - Another simple alternative to get the AMLOR high gain lead tone is the Boss MZ-2 Heavy Metal pedal. The settings shown above are similar to the On the Turning Away lead tone sound. For me, it sounds most accurate into a Fender Bassman, but it gets close to the AMLOR tones with other amps as well, including a Hiwatt.
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